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T O P I C R E V I E Wjojo22ok my leo ex and i dated for a year and a half. We met eachother a few months before his mother passed away. I was 21 and he was 19. Everything was going completely fine when we dating. He really helped me out with a lot of things. He prob was the most helpful boyfriend/person in my life. He talked bout us moving in together and even having kids one day.His only major problem was the he smokes weed EVERY SINGLE DAY. I begged him to cut down but he said he couldnt cuz he gets nervous a lot and the weed calms him down. My only problem was the i got pretty clingy in the relationship. I was also his first girlfriend.Anways the problems started to happen around the 9 month of dating..He said hes working late, he used to get out of work at 6 and then he told me now he gets out at 8:30..things started to get weird.. Anways one day me, him, and our friends were drinking one night. My bf passes out and his friend/ co worker started telling me how my bf goes clubbing with him from time to time and how he has lied to me about how he couldnt hang out on a certain day, he was actaully drinking with his friends...i confronted my bf about everything, he then went into a rage, started screaming saying that im not normal and all that... He completey ignored me the rest of that day and the next day. The day after he finally called me and asked to see him.. When i saw him he told me he had been lying alot within half of our relationship.He basically lied bout things just to hang out with his friends and smoke. He told me he did coke a few times, and went clubbing 4 times...all of this behind my back!But then he started saying "i just cant be in a relationship and i dont want to be in one". So i told him to give me back stuff i left at his house and he said he will the next day. The next day i saw him i made the biggest mistake, i started crying really bad, asking him why the sudden change of heart and how u couldve done all of this to me... He began saying he lost feelings for me 6 months ago and didnt break up with me then cuz he said he was too attached.But he reminded me its over, he has no feeelings, nothing! but he said he really wanted to be friends. He called me a week after but i didnt answer. However we texted eachother 3 weeks ago and he seemed happy to talk to me but then he started talking bout sex and i b#tched at him, saying "if you talking to me for sex then dont talk to me at all" then he started apologizing like crazy.Then i text him a week after that, just saying hows everything, was a short convo. And text happy bday and his bday and just had a normal convo. However i havent heard from in 2 weeks.My question is, why did he break up with me all of a sudden? What possibly was going through his mind?his chartAscendant: Gemini '19Sun:leo '28Moon:taurus '22mercury:leo '9Venus:virgo '16Mars:gemini '16he has venus square mars.....venus trine Uranus, venus square ascendant, venus sextile pluto.My placements:Ascendant: Leo '4Sun isces '13Moon:scorpio '3Mercury isces '16Venus:aries '12Mars:gemini '15I have venus square Uranus, venus sextile mars , venus square neptune, venus trine ascendentPLEASE, any feedback?StarlightSmileSupremeHe just doesn't sound like a very nice guy. He's not relationship material. Maybe as a friend, but nothing serious. He is not trustworthy.peachbeigeblueHe sounds immature. I am a Leo with a Taurus moon with a Gemini Venus and was thinking "this sounds like me when i was younger" until i finally saw his placements. (I also have the sun square moon) I always put my friends first and would barely even date for a long time because i would have rather been there for my friends. I didn't start to grow out of that until about 22ish until I started to get seriously ready to start a forever kind of relationship. You're better off. He needs to grow up. SDragonAgreed. I know a lot of the stuff had been happening behind your back so to speak but now that it's full in your face, the question is what are you willing to accept because that will tell you how much you truly value yourself.I'm not sure you should even care why he dumped you but be thankful that he did. Best of luck.jojo22listen guys.. i would never go back to him, i just wanted to know why he wanted to break up so badly if he seemed so attached to me, im just a little confused, so yea and just wanted to see if theres something in his chart that explains his immature behavior..StarlightSmileSupreme quote:Originally posted by jojo22:listen guys.. i would never go back to him, i just wanted to know why he wanted to break up so badly if he seemed so attached to me, im just a little confused, so yea and just wanted to see if theres something in his chart that explains his immature behavior..He's got Venus and Mars square in mutable signs and Mars is on his ascendant but in house 12 of self undoing and sabotage. He sabotaged your his relationship, looks like.SDragonVenus trine Uranus can tend to have infatuations that start quick but end just as fast. Being young and immature would definitely not help that aspect.jojo22thanks! i would also like to know if theres anything in my chart that may cause any trouble in my relationships?StarlightSmileSupremeYou have Venus square Neptune and Neptune is your sun ruler. People could try to deceive you jojo22oh that sounds very familiar. My friends and family have all told me that i am a very intelligent person BUT when it comes to relationships its the complete opposite. I hate it StarlightSmileSupreme quote:Originally posted by jojo22:oh that sounds very familiar. My friends and family have all told me that i am a very intelligent person BUT when it comes to relationships its the complete opposite. I hate it I am like that too about relationships. If I believe I have found true love and someone I know says something about it, I feel like they are against me and just want me to be miserable so they are trying to break up my relationship. I don't have tense aspects from Venus to Uranus and Neptune, just a square from Saturn and Mars is mostly alone in the third except for one square with a wider orb. SDragonWith your pisces placements and venus square neptune you need to be very careful not to be in a relationship because you want to save the other person from themselves.jojo22yea i hate it btw in my ex's chart is there anything that could indicate that hes abusive? He's never hit me but he was extremely aggressive towards me..StarlightSmileSupremedpStarlightSmileSupremeNothing jumps out, just the square between Venus and Mars. Leo sun is a powerful placement so just having the sun in Leo can make someone more assertive than having the sun in sign like Libra.FruitTreeFreshLeo man needs to be trapped. Lol that's what I think.RandallWelcome!Zander916Yeah that sounds a little familiar. I went through a little period like that about 10 years ago. Not smoking weed or lying - just his attitude. He felt trapped and didn't want to give up his freedom. He probably felt afraid that he was getting in too deep without having had any other girlfriends. He probably did just stick around for the sex and to him the break up wasn't sudden. In his mind he had kind of done it months ago while lying to you and you were left blindsided with a "sudden" breakup". He was likely very annoyed for having to lie and for having to come back at such and such time because that's what he told you the time was. Eventually he broke up to not have to bother lying and could truly do what he wants. He was incredibly selfish. I think you're better off just moving on and don't look back. Things might change years later, not that you should wait of course, but they won't change any time soon. I've seen sudden changes like that but it was people in their 30's or older. RandallMoving to Personal Readings.Dreaming111Idk why but I seem to attract leos and it is the same story. They promise the world, but are lying to you behind your back, and then when you confront them, they get dramatic and some how toss it all on you. It will be anything but if they know they are caught in the wrong they will turn on their acting hats and throw a tantrum. I had one guy talk about marriage, love, home, kids another guy wrote a whole blog about me and his love for me.Both guys I later found out....were liars. And it's a good thing that I have a detective side to me. I trusted them initially but once things didn't add up and I investigated. Both were flirting with other women, getting their numbers, adding them to facebook, other accounts, and complimenting them...Both pretend to be pure and virgins but based on their conversations they are really low down and cheap. Yup.Moral of the story: * Let a man show you not tell you. * Never cry or act clingy to a Leo man, that's what they want. And your value goes down after it. * Never blindly just trust ANYONE. Why should we? Bs....Trust is earned not donated. * Investigate, investigate, investigate and don't let them know about it. * When you do find some ****** stuff, start planning your own exit and see other people behind HIS back. So when all hell breaks lose you aren't a weeping mess like I was. Girls gotta get our acts together. Dreaming111Oh and he had venus square uranus while I had venus trine uranus. In our synastry it was his venus square my uranus. I ditched him lol....Oh and if you think a break will help them miss you or that they will sit there and reflect....don't count on it. Never gonna happen. Side note: I have scorpio moon and he had venus in virgo too. You are way too into him and emotional. I was. And he is picky as hell and never will be satisfied.. serenity quote:Originally posted by jojo22:ok my leo ex and i dated for a year and a half. We met eachother a few months before his mother passed away. I was 21 and he was 19. Everything was going completely fine when we dating. He really helped me out with a lot of things. He prob was the most helpful boyfriend/person in my life. He talked bout us moving in together and even having kids one day.His only major problem was the he smokes weed EVERY SINGLE DAY. I begged him to cut down but he said he couldnt cuz he gets nervous a lot and the weed calms him down. My only problem was the i got pretty clingy in the relationship. I was also his first girlfriend.Anways the problems started to happen around the 9 month of dating..He said hes working late, he used to get out of work at 6 and then he told me now he gets out at 8:30..things started to get weird.. Anways one day me, him, and our friends were drinking one night. My bf passes out and his friend/ co worker started telling me how my bf goes clubbing with him from time to time and how he has lied to me about how he couldnt hang out on a certain day, he was actaully drinking with his friends...i confronted my bf about everything, he then went into a rage, started screaming saying that im not normal and all that... He completey ignored me the rest of that day and the next day. The day after he finally called me and asked to see him.. When i saw him he told me he had been lying alot within half of our relationship.He basically lied bout things just to hang out with his friends and smoke. He told me he did coke a few times, and went clubbing 4 times...all of this behind my back!But then he started saying "i just cant be in a relationship and i dont want to be in one". So i told him to give me back stuff i left at his house and he said he will the next day. The next day i saw him i made the biggest mistake, i started crying really bad, asking him why the sudden change of heart and how u couldve done all of this to me... He began saying he lost feelings for me 6 months ago and didnt break up with me then cuz he said he was too attached.But he reminded me its over, he has no feeelings, nothing! but he said he really wanted to be friends. He called me a week after but i didnt answer. However we texted eachother 3 weeks ago and he seemed happy to talk to me but then he started talking bout sex and i b#tched at him, saying "if you talking to me for sex then dont talk to me at all" then he started apologizing like crazy.Then i text him a week after that, just saying hows everything, was a short convo. And text happy bday and his bday and just had a normal convo. However i havent heard from in 2 weeks.My question is, why did he break up with me all of a sudden? What possibly was going through his mind?his chartAscendant: Gemini '19Sun:leo '28Moon:taurus '22mercury:leo '9Venus:virgo '16Mars:gemini '16he has venus square mars.....venus trine Uranus, venus square ascendant, venus sextile pluto.My placements:Ascendant: Leo '4Sun isces '13Moon:scorpio '3Mercury isces '16Venus:aries '12Mars:gemini '15I have venus square Uranus, venus sextile mars , venus square neptune, venus trine ascendentPLEASE, any feedback?He's a stoner, likes to party. You come last. His drugs and party lifestlye comes first. He's not shoving feelings or anything under. He's 19 years old. He hasn't felt true love, where a lightning bolt has hit him, and he's consumed by true love. He hasn't felt it. Don't know when he is able to feel it or how. It could be many years until he does. Look at what is important for him and be realistic to prevent hurt for you. Take care of you. Back off. Don't push this. Let him do his thing. Don't even hook up with him when he's high. No booty calls. Seriously. If you feel you deserve better than this, you can get it. But if you think he's in love with you, you're wrong. He's not. Sorry for the heart break. You're 21 and got a long life ahead of you. I would suggest going to therapy if you are wondering why he doesn't want you. Want a man who wants to be with you and spend time with you, not one that clearly does not. jojo22ok like i said earlier im only asking this to see if his birth chart can say something about his behavoir. But i heard the venus square mars people always start DRAMA and that was clearly him. Now i know what placements to avoid now lol
Anways the problems started to happen around the 9 month of dating..He said hes working late, he used to get out of work at 6 and then he told me now he gets out at 8:30..things started to get weird.. Anways one day me, him, and our friends were drinking one night. My bf passes out and his friend/ co worker started telling me how my bf goes clubbing with him from time to time and how he has lied to me about how he couldnt hang out on a certain day, he was actaully drinking with his friends...
i confronted my bf about everything, he then went into a rage, started screaming saying that im not normal and all that... He completey ignored me the rest of that day and the next day. The day after he finally called me and asked to see him.. When i saw him he told me he had been lying alot within half of our relationship.
He basically lied bout things just to hang out with his friends and smoke. He told me he did coke a few times, and went clubbing 4 times...all of this behind my back!
But then he started saying "i just cant be in a relationship and i dont want to be in one". So i told him to give me back stuff i left at his house and he said he will the next day. The next day i saw him i made the biggest mistake, i started crying really bad, asking him why the sudden change of heart and how u couldve done all of this to me... He began saying he lost feelings for me 6 months ago and didnt break up with me then cuz he said he was too attached.
But he reminded me its over, he has no feeelings, nothing! but he said he really wanted to be friends. He called me a week after but i didnt answer. However we texted eachother 3 weeks ago and he seemed happy to talk to me but then he started talking bout sex and i b#tched at him, saying "if you talking to me for sex then dont talk to me at all" then he started apologizing like crazy.
Then i text him a week after that, just saying hows everything, was a short convo. And text happy bday and his bday and just had a normal convo. However i havent heard from in 2 weeks.
My question is, why did he break up with me all of a sudden? What possibly was going through his mind?
his chartAscendant: Gemini '19Sun:leo '28Moon:taurus '22mercury:leo '9Venus:virgo '16Mars:gemini '16
he has venus square mars.....venus trine Uranus, venus square ascendant, venus sextile pluto.
My placements:Ascendant: Leo '4Sun isces '13Moon:scorpio '3Mercury isces '16Venus:aries '12Mars:gemini '15
I have venus square Uranus, venus sextile mars , venus square neptune, venus trine ascendent
PLEASE, any feedback?
You're better off. He needs to grow up.
I'm not sure you should even care why he dumped you but be thankful that he did. Best of luck.
quote:Originally posted by jojo22:listen guys.. i would never go back to him, i just wanted to know why he wanted to break up so badly if he seemed so attached to me, im just a little confused, so yea and just wanted to see if theres something in his chart that explains his immature behavior..
quote:Originally posted by jojo22:oh that sounds very familiar. My friends and family have all told me that i am a very intelligent person BUT when it comes to relationships its the complete opposite. I hate it
I am like that too about relationships. If I believe I have found true love and someone I know says something about it, I feel like they are against me and just want me to be miserable so they are trying to break up my relationship. I don't have tense aspects from Venus to Uranus and Neptune, just a square from Saturn and Mars is mostly alone in the third except for one square with a wider orb.
He felt trapped and didn't want to give up his freedom. He probably felt afraid that he was getting in too deep without having had any other girlfriends. He probably did just stick around for the sex and to him the break up wasn't sudden. In his mind he had kind of done it months ago while lying to you and you were left blindsided with a "sudden" breakup". He was likely very annoyed for having to lie and for having to come back at such and such time because that's what he told you the time was. Eventually he broke up to not have to bother lying and could truly do what he wants. He was incredibly selfish. I think you're better off just moving on and don't look back. Things might change years later, not that you should wait of course, but they won't change any time soon. I've seen sudden changes like that but it was people in their 30's or older.
They promise the world, but are lying to you behind your back, and then when you confront them, they get dramatic and some how toss it all on you.
It will be anything but if they know they are caught in the wrong they will turn on their acting hats and throw a tantrum.
I had one guy talk about marriage, love, home, kids another guy wrote a whole blog about me and his love for me.
Both guys I later found out....were liars. And it's a good thing that I have a detective side to me. I trusted them initially but once things didn't add up and I investigated. Both were flirting with other women, getting their numbers, adding them to facebook, other accounts, and complimenting them...Both pretend to be pure and virgins but based on their conversations they are really low down and cheap.
Yup.
Moral of the story:
* Let a man show you not tell you. * Never cry or act clingy to a Leo man, that's what they want. And your value goes down after it. * Never blindly just trust ANYONE. Why should we? Bs....Trust is earned not donated. * Investigate, investigate, investigate and don't let them know about it. * When you do find some ****** stuff, start planning your own exit and see other people behind HIS back. So when all hell breaks lose you aren't a weeping mess like I was.
Girls gotta get our acts together.
Oh and if you think a break will help them miss you or that they will sit there and reflect....don't count on it. Never gonna happen.
Side note:
I have scorpio moon and he had venus in virgo too.
You are way too into him and emotional. I was. And he is picky as hell and never will be satisfied..
quote:Originally posted by jojo22:ok my leo ex and i dated for a year and a half. We met eachother a few months before his mother passed away. I was 21 and he was 19. Everything was going completely fine when we dating. He really helped me out with a lot of things. He prob was the most helpful boyfriend/person in my life. He talked bout us moving in together and even having kids one day.His only major problem was the he smokes weed EVERY SINGLE DAY. I begged him to cut down but he said he couldnt cuz he gets nervous a lot and the weed calms him down. My only problem was the i got pretty clingy in the relationship. I was also his first girlfriend.Anways the problems started to happen around the 9 month of dating..He said hes working late, he used to get out of work at 6 and then he told me now he gets out at 8:30..things started to get weird.. Anways one day me, him, and our friends were drinking one night. My bf passes out and his friend/ co worker started telling me how my bf goes clubbing with him from time to time and how he has lied to me about how he couldnt hang out on a certain day, he was actaully drinking with his friends...i confronted my bf about everything, he then went into a rage, started screaming saying that im not normal and all that... He completey ignored me the rest of that day and the next day. The day after he finally called me and asked to see him.. When i saw him he told me he had been lying alot within half of our relationship.He basically lied bout things just to hang out with his friends and smoke. He told me he did coke a few times, and went clubbing 4 times...all of this behind my back!But then he started saying "i just cant be in a relationship and i dont want to be in one". So i told him to give me back stuff i left at his house and he said he will the next day. The next day i saw him i made the biggest mistake, i started crying really bad, asking him why the sudden change of heart and how u couldve done all of this to me... He began saying he lost feelings for me 6 months ago and didnt break up with me then cuz he said he was too attached.But he reminded me its over, he has no feeelings, nothing! but he said he really wanted to be friends. He called me a week after but i didnt answer. However we texted eachother 3 weeks ago and he seemed happy to talk to me but then he started talking bout sex and i b#tched at him, saying "if you talking to me for sex then dont talk to me at all" then he started apologizing like crazy.Then i text him a week after that, just saying hows everything, was a short convo. And text happy bday and his bday and just had a normal convo. However i havent heard from in 2 weeks.My question is, why did he break up with me all of a sudden? What possibly was going through his mind?his chartAscendant: Gemini '19Sun:leo '28Moon:taurus '22mercury:leo '9Venus:virgo '16Mars:gemini '16he has venus square mars.....venus trine Uranus, venus square ascendant, venus sextile pluto.My placements:Ascendant: Leo '4Sun isces '13Moon:scorpio '3Mercury isces '16Venus:aries '12Mars:gemini '15I have venus square Uranus, venus sextile mars , venus square neptune, venus trine ascendentPLEASE, any feedback?
He's a stoner, likes to party. You come last. His drugs and party lifestlye comes first. He's not shoving feelings or anything under. He's 19 years old. He hasn't felt true love, where a lightning bolt has hit him, and he's consumed by true love. He hasn't felt it. Don't know when he is able to feel it or how. It could be many years until he does. Look at what is important for him and be realistic to prevent hurt for you. Take care of you. Back off. Don't push this. Let him do his thing. Don't even hook up with him when he's high. No booty calls. Seriously. If you feel you deserve better than this, you can get it. But if you think he's in love with you, you're wrong. He's not. Sorry for the heart break. You're 21 and got a long life ahead of you. I would suggest going to therapy if you are wondering why he doesn't want you. Want a man who wants to be with you and spend time with you, not one that clearly does not.
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